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Two variations of the Eley .360 No 5 box ........

The .360 No 5 cartridge started out as a rifle cartridge sometime in the late 1870s. It was originally intended for use in small rifles that were used for rook, rabbit and other small game hunting; a 1902-1903 Kynoch catalog lists them as rook and kangaroo cartridges. It was also loaded for use in revolvers. The Eley box shown here is for rifle cartridges, and lists the load on the label as 14 grains of powder (black) and a 134 grain bullet. 

Eley and Kynoch both loaded the .360 No. 5 cartridge, continuing under the Nobel Industries and later Imperial Chemical Industries reorganizations into the 1930s. The rifle load listed in a 1925 Nobel Industries catalog is the same as that loaded by Eley and Kynoch in earlier years, 14 grains of black powder and a 134 grain solid lead or hollow point bullet. Nobel also lists a smokeless load with 3 3/4 grains of powder and a 145 grain solid lead or hollow point bullet. Their revolver load had16 grains of black powder and a 125 grain solid lead bullet. They did not list a smokeless revolver load. A 1935 Imperial Chemical Industries lists two .360 No. 5 cartridges, one loaded with 14 grains of black powder and a 134 grain solid lead or hollow point bullet, and the other loaded with 5 grains of 'revolver neonite' smokeless powder and a 145 grain solid lead or hollow point bullet. Both of these are listed as rook rifle cartidges; there is no .360 No 5 revolver cartridge listed.

This red-labeled  box of Eley .360 No. 5 cartridges was made about the same time as the rifle box above, based on the similarity of the graphics and lettering of the labels, as well as the construction of the boxes. The boxes were made between about 1885, when the 'EBL-in-a-shield' trademark was registered and 1918, after which some reference to Mobel industries would be on the labels. The label on this box indicates the cartridges were loaded with 18 grains of black powder and a 125 grain bullet, and were intended for use in Webley revolvers.

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The bullets from the two boxes are shown here, with the rifle cartridge on the left. It is loaded with a hollow point bullet, while the revolver cartridge is solid lead. Otherwise, the cartridges are quite similar in appearance, and have matching headstamps.

The upper and lower halves of these two-piece, full-split style boxes are constructed the same, each being folded from a single piece of pasteboard with the ends secured with two steel rivets. They have one piece labels that wrap around from top to sides to bottom, sealing the boxes closed and requiring that the labels be cut at the bottom edges in order for the top half to be lifted off of the bottom half.   

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